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Brightest Faith: Replies #5 Part I
01.20.04 (4:37 pm)   [edit]
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Judge for yourself:
Did Jesus fulfill ALL these criteria?
The Jewish tradition of "The Messiah" has its foundation in numerous biblical references, and understands "The Messiah" to be a human being - without any overtone of deity or divinity - who will bring about certain changes in the world and fulfill certain criteria before he can be acknowledged as "The Messiah".
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When Jesus Christ was here on earth, He was indeed a man. In full flesh, bones, and blood, He was a made created of the same stuff of life as you or I. This is why He was able to be tempted as satan. This is also why He was fully capable of committing sin. But Jesus Christ also had the Holy Spirit. All men do have spirits but the Spirit of Jesus Christ was God's Spirit. He was also created in the exact image of God, the way the first Adam (Hah-Ah-Dam) man was.

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The genealogy of the New Testament is inconsistent. While it gives two accounts of the genealogy of Joseph, it states clearly that he is not the biological father of Jesus. One of the genealogies is through Nathan and not Solomon altogether!
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The scripture is indeed consistent. It seems inconsistent to those that do not read it with understanding. The two accounts of Jesus Christ's genealogy were given in the beginning of Matthew of Chapter 1 and the Gospel According to Luke of Chapter 3 starting at around Verse 23. Matthew goes forwards starting from Abraham and going all the way to Joseph, where Luke starts from Joseph and goes backwards toward the first Adam, calling him the son of God because he was created by God.
Now all of the Bible is mathematically correct. Matthew began forwards and divided the genealogy of Christ into 3 sets of 14 names, which is in accord with the number that is God's seal, the number 7.
In the Gospel According to Matthew,
1st Chapter, Verse 17, states: "So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations."
The carrying away into Babylon was of that mentioned earlier in Verse 11. where Josias begat Jechonias and his bretheren, then Jechonias begat Salathiel. There is a reason why he did this. The whole of the word has mathematical meaning and the meaning described by Matthew is no exception. Matthew leaves out, selectively, generations so much as to describe that the genealogy is sacred. The number 14 equals the numerical value of the name of David (DWD). There are 42 mentioned in the genealogy and in Luke's description there are 77, in multiples of seven. The seventy-seven is given by Adam to Abraham (21) to David (14) until the exile (21) to Joseph (21), in numerical significance. But, it traces it all the way back to Adam, where Matthew only goes back as far as to Abraham. It says in both that Jesse is the father of David who is the King, but Matthew's says that David had Solomon and goes from there, where Luke's goes from David to Nathan, which is where you had trouble. Luke goes from Adam to Abraham. Then that's where you can compare the two. They are both in accord from Abraham to David. Then they both take a different turn right after then. This is where your Nathan trouble comes in. In those times, Jewish laws, as Jesus and from those he was descended from were both Gentiles and Jews, permitted that, given a brother were to die or pass on, his widow would have to become his brothers wife and his children to go with him. Thus, the dead brother would be kept alive through his children by their mother wed to their father's brother, who becomes their father by law, a legal father. A father to children by law is as much of a father as a father to children by nature. But, it was done this way so that it was sort of a mortal attempt at resurrection where the name of the deceased brother would be perpetuated so by his children or his widow. So, one genealogy is by nature, the other by law; and if you examine the genealogies, you will find evidence of this. Some of this is revealed in the line where it says in genealogy according to Matthew in
Verse 6 "And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; ..."
Matthan was descended from Solomon. Matthan had Jacob and when Matthan died, Melchi, who descended from Nathan, had Eli with the same woman. Eli and Jacob were brothers in this way by the law. Eli died childless and Jacob took Eli's widow and gave birth to Joseph, who was his son by nature, but by law still Eli's son. Joseph was the son and descendent of both Solomon and Nathan, where the genealogies split off and [i]appear[/i] to disagree. But, there is no error. This proves His ancestry is through King David, who was promised by God to give birth to a Kingdom that should last forever; and it also proves He is from the root of Jesse in the Book of Isaiah Chapter 11 Verse 1 to 5 and 10.
Who could be all of these things but Jesus Christ, the man depicted here in God's words who is of God? Do you think that there is a messiah that is yet to be born?


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First of all, he must be Jewish - "...you may appoint a king over you, wham the Lord your God shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)
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As it is proven in the ancestry above, Jesus Christ is Jewish.

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He must be a member of the tribe of Judah - "The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)
He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - "And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)
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In those times, the law did not permit them to marry outiside of their tribe. Even Joseph, who was of the tribe of Judah, married Mary, who was also of the tribe of Judah.

You said that you do not believe Jesus Christ to be of the ancestry of King David which is of the tribe of Judah because Jesus Christ wasn't biologically the son of Joseph. But Jesus Christ was of Mary, who was married to Joseph. Marriage Biblically, as described in Genesis, is leaving your mother and father to be cleaved to your wife. Then, in God's Almighty eyes, the two, a man and his wife, shall be seen as one flesh. It doesn't matter whether Jesus Christ wasn't conceived from Joseph uniting with Mary. Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Spirit, as it says, and carnated in the flesh in Mary, who was married to Joseph. So he is His father. It doesn't matter how men see it. How God sees us is far more important. This can be divided back to The Book of Genesis Chapter 2, Verse 24.

[quote]He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)
Are all Jews living in Israel? Have all Jews EVER lived in Israel since the time of Jesus?
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His believers were Jewish and Gentile alike. There were Jews that believed in Him and Jews that did not. He did have disciples that followed Him and after His resurrection and they did spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the corners of the earth (end of Verse 20 in Chapter 28), which would include Jewish exiles from Israel. And yes, they did speak in tongues by His Holy Spirit, communicating with the people of each nation. And Jesus Christ came to bring all people to His Father, whether they are Jewish or not. Gospel According to Matthew Chapter 28, Verse 19.

"He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem." He rebuilt the temple. But the temple isn't what you think it is. God incarnated the Holy Spirit into Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Son of the Living God, which all things were created for. In the Gospel According to Matthew Chapter 26, Jesus says:
Verse 61: And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.
God is all around us and within us. I think you can agree that God sees all and has power over everything. But, why would God's temple be a temple built by men? The body is a temple. God loves in the hearts of the righteous, does He not? The Holy Spirit was incarnated in Mary's womb and Jesus Christ as a man was the result. This was the temple that God was talking about. They crucified Jesus. Indeed yes, on a cross. And He did there die on that place. But after 3 days He was raised from that state by His Father. He was rebuilt and was with the Father in heaven and in a body that was no longer of the flesh at his crucifixion. He returned to the earth to direct His disciples and sent them out as apostles. The temple that He was talking about wasn't the temple built in fourty and six days, but God's temple, as the human body of God is His temple. The temple which housed the Holy Spirit.


Part II is coming soon.
 


posted by: RedTigress (reply)
post date: 01.26.04 (2:35 pm)

None of this that you quote is even logical.

Sorry, Jesus ain't the messiah. As far as I'm concerned, the messiah hasn't come yet.



posted by: Isaac (reply)
post date: 06.19.06 (4:44 am)

Reply to: RedTigress
Show me evidence that He isn't!

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