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The Importance of Justification - Classical Lutheranism Opposes Roman Catholicism
04.16.07 (9:52 pm)   [edit]

I was recently searching for the definition of 'ecumenical' when I happened upon this article describing a joint agreement between modern Lutheranism and Roman Catholicism in October 31, 1999, called 'The Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification,' and it had a link to this interesting article: http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=2212" title="http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=2212" target="_blank"http://www.lcms.org/pages/int... I will give a summary of the article, and then some important key info. below.

It describes how this agreement carefully avoids defining what they agreed upon, and that it was a bowing down of the Lutheran church of today to the Roman Catholic doctrine of justification as a valid interpretation of the doctrine. The true doctrine screams of faith without works being what is used in the doctrine of Justification, but Roman Catholicism mixes Justification with their definition of Sanctification, saying that works is the bible's acceptable means of justification, that one can merit God's grace through good works and teach that 'something other than trust in Christ' is necessary for salvation through His grace. The agreement says that we're saved by both faith and works, which is just not found in the Holy Bible.

No one will stand before God and say that they got there on their own merit. The bible speaks radically against this misinterpretation of the facts: it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast, being justified by faith alone, not by the deeds of the law, and His grace is given to us through that faith, which is not of ourselves. This is (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:28).

If Roman Catholicism believed the biblical, historical, classical definition of the Justification rather than its own definition it would immediately have an impact on its view of indulgences, prayer to saints, prayer to Mary, and other extra-biblical tradi tions (extra-biblical means it's not in the bible).

Lets study doctrine - the bible says, to 'exercise ourselves unto godliness' (1 Tim. 4:7), and that doctrine is according to godliness (1 Tim 6:3). This same area of scripture exhorts us the present church following Jesus long after it was written (as God designed it) to give attention to reading, to exhortation, and to doctrine (1 Tim 4:7). Adding, "Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee." (1 Tim 4:15)

If you read any post in my blog before a certain date in 2005, you'll read all sorts of false doctrines and false teachings from spurious sources - some of them televangelists, some of them gnostic teachings I was reading. This isn't giving attention to the doctrine...Christ's doctrine. It says in the Word, Acts 2:42 that the apostolic, first-generation of the church continued daily in fellowship and the apostle's doctrine, which was taught to the apostles by Jesus. We are to continue even today in the apostle's doctrine, as revealed in scripture. Anything else is a study on heterodoxy, not on orthodoxy, what is orthodox. On false doctrine, not what Christ's taught. So, this area of scripture the Lord used recently to put an urgency in my spirit. To 'exercise' myself to Godliness - to give attention to reading, exhortation, and to doctrine. That word exercise means somewhat to train. It says that bodily exercise profits little but exercise unto Godliness is profitable here and in the world to come.
I started bodily exercising, and now I'm going to give attention to that godliness the scriptures so willingly presents.

I've heard things tonight... that in the scriptures, it bears the very image of Christ. Very interesting, but if I don't judge these things on what the bible presents, then I'm no good. Don't listen to me - I'm full of false doctrine, or will soon be full of it. I'm unstable, untaught, in the Word of truth, and deserve no serious attention. But if the Word of God says it, and it's the clear, consistent teaching of scripture, then it's the Lord speaking through me a meer man, and it's to be listened to, because the Lord Jesus Christ said and taught it and backs it up by honoring His Word even today.

So lets train. Spiritual Sweat. I remember that on this blog, I once posted a yearly bible outline to read the bible in a year. And then never followed it myself. Rediculous. Hypocrisy. That will get me in a lot of trouble when I give my account before the throne of Jesus. No - we must study doctrine, according to godliness. We must be practicing what we're studying!

If we could only say and do what we were practicing out of scripture, in the Word of God, out of Jesus's mouth, and what Jesus did... how would be? I myself would be able to say very little, and to do very little. We need to study, because how do we know that it's acceptable to God or not? The bible never institutes the office of a Reverend, yet we have thousands of them today - it calls them Elders, in 1 Tim. 5, that I learned in church last Sunday. If we could only do and say what we were practicing from the bible... So lets go for this, to give attention to proving what we are doing now, at least, as biblically what the Lord wants us to do. For example, Daniel 1 - the Lord will give us knowledge and wisdom in school in studying in order to be a better witness. This is clear and consistent because Moses was trained in all the wisdoms of Egypt before he separated himself from Pharoah's daughter. Paul's wisdom as a Master Builder in Christ, as he put it, was to relate - to become weak or to become like one without the law in order that at least some might be saved through his suffering; so it's okay to go to school and to learn and to study hard. That's just an example. Now, where in scripture does it say to go to church? Hebrews 10:25. Anywhere else? I mean, lets find biblical reasons for what we believe, and why we believe it! Lets separate ourselves from the world by practicing godliness... By holding that the Word of God is true... By living to do every thing to the glory of God, blessed forever amen.

That's what the law does - it stops the mouths of sinners, from justifying themselves. Well, through grace, lets open our mouths! We've been given this grace by God! Lets walk, fully pleasing Him in conscience and word and deed. Loving on Him. All we have to do here is to love Him with everything that He's given us to be, and as Christians! We're so afraid of legalism. And boy, no one is more afraid than I am - I was a legal eagle - I didn't eat certain meats, I kept the Sabbath holy, and though it was a sin to do otherwise - legalism. But God says in His Word, that He's prepared for us good works, in our sanctification (we've been saved, so lets do x to glorify the Lord that saved us out of gratitude). Not out of compunction, but to press towards the mark of the high calling of God - because we love Him, because He loved us and first gave Himself for us! Lets not be afraid of good works - knowing that we're not saved by those works, and VERY IMPORTANT - that we're already fully pleasing to God through faith in His Son without the works, and we already have His full attention, but out of sacrifice to the Lord for being so good, do it because we want to, because we love Him... Make sense?

I hope that I wont read what I wrote in 10 months... and just cringe on how far off I was... -_- Arrr... Well.

Cheers, mates!
Isaac D.

 


posted by: Nick Finzer (reply)
post date: 05.10.07 (1:45 pm)

Isaac,

Christ is Risen!
Truly He is Risen!

You may remember me from karate class out at Azalea.

Wow, so much to respond to. I will start with the biggest, justification "sola fide" (by faith alone). First, since I was Catholic for 10 years, I believe your understanding of Catholic teaching is not actually correct. The official position of the Church, if I recall correctly (and I may not), is NOT that we are justified by works alone, or by faith alone, but by both. This certainly is not the impression you get speaking with many Catholics, but since my purpose is neither to defend or criticize Catholicism, but to expose Truth, that is all I will say on the subject of Catholic doctrine.

You say above: "The agreement says that we're saved by both faith and works, which is just not found in the Holy Bible." This is certainly incorrect.

I think the most important thing to look at here is The Epistle of James. In chapter 2, it is written:

What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You belive that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-- and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? ... You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. ... For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. [James 2:14-20,24,26]

The faith that saves is a complete faith: not just the mind believing and the tongue confessing, but the whole man trusting in the living God. This means our faith and our relationship with God- our justification- are dynamic and living. Our faith grows and affects our actions, or it dies. "Faith alone", static faith, does no save. We must nurture our faith in GOd and love for Him through our works. As St. Maximus the Confessor (AD 580-662) said, "Do not say you are the temple of the Lord, writes Jeremiah [Jer. 7:4]; nor should you say that faith alone in our Lord Jesus Christ can save you, for this is impossible unless you acquire love for Him through your works."

And again, on the topic of salvation, Matthew 25:31-46 (partial quotation below):

All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on His right hand, "Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me." [Matthew 26:32-36]

The Holy Scriptures clearly deny that those who simply proclaim Jesus with the lips will be saved:

Jesus speaking: "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." [Matt. 7:21]

"If you love Me, keep My commandments." {Jn. 14:15]

You will agree that there is a huge difference between RECOGNIZING that Jesus is the Christ, our salvation, and living the Christian life (prior to the first use of the word "Christian" in Antioch [Acts] they were called "People of the Way"), for even the demons recognize Jesus as the Son of God:

"What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God?" [Matt 8:29]

The Holy Apostle Paul writes in Ephesians:
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them." [Ephesians 2:8-10]

We are created to do good works, the work of the Lord.

"Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord." [1Cor 15:58]

We do not, of course, believe that we earn merit by doing good works. Just as faith without works is dead, so are good works without faith in Christ. Charitable works done without love for God are no better than professing Christ with your lips but not with your life.

Can you be saved by a dead faith?



posted by: Nick Finzer (reply)
post date: 05.10.07 (1:46 pm)

Salvation comprehends all of life. Faith versus works is a discussion born out of the reformation, unprecedented in Orthodox thought. What we see in the passage above from Ephesians is that salvation is not from faith alone, nor from works alone, but from CHRIST alone. The Scriptures taken as a whole, not as a single verse, certainly bear witness to this.

It is interesting to me, that in reality, Evangelicals/Protestants and Orthodox are closer than we sometimes realize in these beliefs. It is a point of doctrine for many Protestants that we are justified by faith alone, but who actually lives their life that way? Indeed you encourage good works in this very post.

You also say: "If Roman Catholicism believed the biblical, historical, classical definition of the Justification rather than its own definition it would immediately have an impact on its view of indulgences, prayer to saints, prayer to Mary, and other extra-biblical traditions".

I will try to keep this brief. Again, I am not here to defend or condemn Catholicism. I certainly condemn indulgences. However, hopefully I made it clear above that what I described is in fact the "biblical, historical classical definition" of justification, since the whole "faith vs. works" debate only came about with the Reformation.

I do however, defend prayer to all saints, including to the Ever-Virgin Mary, as proper and just, as well as Biblical. The Church has always, even under the Old Covenant, believed in the Communion of the Saints. The "great cloud of witnesses" mentioned by St. Paul in Hebrews (12:1). The Church, the Body of Christ, is One. Death does not separate us. We pray for one another. Why do we ask others to pray for us? Why would you ask your pastor to pray for you? St. James says "...pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much." [James 5:16] We ask the Mother of God and all the Saints to pray for us because of their righteousness. Since all the Saints are united in Christ, they are aware of us and pray for us. The Church on Heaven and earth are united. There is no such thing as a dead saint, Christ is life. It is hard to believe that St. Paul, who struggled and gave his life for the Church, is now in heaven playing golf, forgetting the church he cared for and loved.




posted by: (reply)
post date: 05.10.07 (1:47 pm)

Finally, you say "It says in the Word, Acts 2:42 that the apostolic, first-generation of the church continued daily in fellowship and the apostle's doctrine, which was taught to the apostles by Jesus. We are to continue even today in the apostle's doctrine, as revealed in scripture. Anything else is a study on heterodoxy, not on orthodoxy, what is orthodox."

Not only is the Apostles' doctrine revealed to us today in scripture, but in the Holy Apostolic Church, passed down directly to us generation to generation by the apostles, as attested to by history and Scripture. I invite you to find the truly and completely orthodox, the Orthodox Christian Church, unchanged for 2000 years. The Orthodox Church is Evangelical, but not Protestant. It is Orthodox, but not Jewish. It is not non-denominational, it is pre-denominational. It is the church of the Ecumenical Councils, the New Israel, and the church through which the New Testament was received and written down, as well as the inheritor of the Old.

I invite you in the words of St. Philip to "come and see". I will even provide transportation. Contact me anytime on AIM as NLCK8910.

I apologize for the length of this post.

God bless you and your journey!



posted by: Nick Finzer (reply)
post date: 05.10.07 (1:48 pm)

Sorry for so many posts, this thing was giving me issues!

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